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terrorism but not Islamic
saracen
Posted by saracen, 9/11/11 4:34 PM - Permalink
Firstly, commiserate with you for 9/11 as who knows what terrorism means and I know that's unnecessary to repeat because all of you already know that killing innocent and civil people has nothing to do with Islam. Hz.Muhammed says, "killing one man is like killing all humanity... " Nobody can exemplify al quaeda, taliban, or any organisation. They are not Muslim. Islamic(as west call) Terrorism has been created since Cold War against Socialist world especially al quaeda as you know. That's not coincidence. If they are Muslim, why they killed 1.5 million Muslims in Iraq, instead of americans ? Or is there any example of genocide, massacre, destroying, torture, rape or anything else in history of (real) Islam, contrary to Christian history like holocaust, vietnam, american indians, bosnia, caucasia, rwanda, algeria, cyprus, kosovo, iraq, afghanistan, ...etc.

Don't get angry, I know this is not Christianity either. These examples show that what can people do in the name of Islam, Christianity, or any belief, in spite of no relevance.
And still I know you have no doubt about Islam but I just wanted to be sure.
And one more time, commiserate with you
Daxter
Posted by Daxter, 9/25/11 11:32 PM - Permalink
YOU ARE RIGHT
xxmusicfreakxx1
Posted by xxmusicfreakxx1, 12/1/11 5:43 AM - Permalink
No,its what they do in the name of their own wants..not some religion or god/gods. Nothing on earth changes man's nature. Blowing yourself up is not from Islam..that is a new idea from the hands of MEN. Although the creator of Islam was a pedophile and insane..doesn't give Muslim men the right to kill.

Also Stalin himself outlawed religion. No=religion meant..he kill without a just caused from any religion thus proving further..how its really us. Nobody can "kill" in the name of Christianity..or any religion. The reason is usually unreported for the media. The real reason..like if they hate Americans or really really really hate Jews. Where does hatred come from? Within oneself. I could say I'm superman but by the world's standards I am simply because I say so
mishmish
Posted by mishmish, 12/1/11 6:07 AM - Permalink
With all due respect; and I quote you "Although the creator of Islam was a pedophile and insane"
Islam comes from God and all Muslims, Christians and Jews know that God is neither a pedophile nor insane!
xxmusicfreakxx1
Posted by xxmusicfreakxx1, 12/2/11 8:38 PM - Permalink
Although I respect people of different faiths when it comes to Muslim..its very clear, Muhammed really abused this "new faith" for sex and power. Many authors of the bible(not all) turned away from doing murderous deeds and all(except for war).Muhammed while still believing in Allah, had sex with a 10 year old girl! Sex is all this man cared for..If this man really cared for Allah his own actions proved he did not. Was "Allah' created out of pure thin air for one man's own pleasure? I really don't mean to offend but..that's the real question people should be asking.

If you take a look at Islam and its teachings...Women are basically shunned. And why would a god have his very own followers kill off the entire race of humanity(nobelievers)? So is Islam a belief, or a murderous war system? Clearly radical Muslims show(expect for blowing themselves up) that Islam is violent. Islam vs Christianity, OT laws(for early Jews) were outlawed when Jesus came to earth thus only following the 10 commandments and a few others. Jews still follow many(but not all) of their own traditions. 1.3 billion Muslims vs what like nearly topping 6 billion other non-Muslims? Kill 6 billion but what world domination for this 'Allah"?

I don't mean to offend any Muslim as I respect people but..if radical Muslim men aren't actually having a "just" reason which is backed up by their faith(literally) then yeah Islam is violent. The world is afraid to stand up and defend them. Yet preaching about sin..you can die for or get locked up. Muslim get away for free. Preaching about Jesus you can literally die for that or get thrown in jail. Muslims can kill and get away with it because people FEAR THEM.

Is that really a religion or a system of actual control?
saracen
Posted by saracen, 12/4/11 4:25 PM - Permalink
Firstly let's correct your false. If you say about this, Hz Aişe was at least 17-18 years old when got married Hz Muhammed according to calculating of age of those poor times and this was so normal for those ages. Don't write any claim with your christianty references. And if he was pedophile, why his first wife was so older than him. You all realy like commenting everything on your western materialist thinking method.

Secondly, I wrote you before, your writings about hatred of muslims are all wrong. You didn't give yet an example of any massacre systematic, genocide, rape, demolition or sth else of muslims against christianity of judaism. I cannot see any hate. But I gave you a lot of examples of opposite.
ratfink95
Posted by ratfink95, 12/5/11 3:17 AM - Permalink
I find it strange that what labels we put on this issue depend on our beliefs values and personal predudices. If your government is for any group, they are referred to as "freedom fighters". If against, "rebels" or terrorists". And, over time, the label can change. Note the British attitude to the IRA. "Terrorists" eventually became incorporated into the Irish Parliament. Now granted 9/11 was absolutely horrible. Americans responded with knee-jerk reactions and hysteria. We had the same reactions in Australia with the Bali bombings. All dark skinned people became suspect, no matter what their origins. Go back further. Post WW2 and the Japanese, the list goes on. Race, religion and creed are labels. Some read them one way, others another. Tolerance, good will, forbearance and EDUCATION are the keys to break the ongoing malice thats felt worldwide. I'm not trying to preach, I'm just suggesting a possible solution to the problem.
saracen
Posted by saracen, 12/5/11 2:57 PM - Permalink
The most rightful is you ratfink. Thanks
xxmusicfreakxx1
Posted by xxmusicfreakxx1, 12/5/11 7:59 PM - Permalink
Terrorists want to cause harm..isn't that the point of terrorism? To spread fear and death? Looking at 9/11 there are many loop-holes that don't fit what the president and the gov't itself has said..We blame radicals but went to war with them? Radical "Muslims" willingly kill thousands of their own people everyday..blow up them as well. Doesn't this 'Allah" character want his followers to kill non-believers not Muslims?

Did you know that the leader of Iran wants to wipe off Israel off the map? Want to force out Christians? To them,their "Holy Koran" gives them a right to kill non-believers Jews and Christians. Why? Why only those 2?

People who cause their own harm..a religious book doesn't force a single thing upon anybody thus a religious book doesn't lead to war hatred,death etc etc etc. That's people. It doesn't get off the shelf and start genocides rapes etc.

These are true examples of what humanity is actually capable of..thus science can't solve the issue and furthermore nobody has the solution.

I already know being "Christian" "Atheist" "Muslim" "Wiccan" etc are labels but it doesn't describe who the person is..its just a label. You are right Ratfinks95
ratfink95
Posted by ratfink95, 12/7/11 12:17 AM - Permalink
Just so you know guys, it took a lo-o-o-ong time for me to get that in my own thick head. Persist in goodness. It gets taken in eventually. Does'nt hurt either. Wel-l-l, not much anyway. lol.

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