once again regardless of where an image is downloaded its then up to the original artist to pursue where they have seen it and ask that person to see where they got it and pursue that road to get it removed from other sites.
but words of warning unless that image is in a public domain and the site gives rights for it to be downloaded and used in any purpose then it shouldn,t be downloaded.
thats the problem with all images on the internet it should be made clear to anybody out there that its not a free for all.?

and also this is the important bit she should of asked the site who had the image and seeked there permission before downloading it.?
of which when the original artist who got in touch would have a trail to follow and could pursue that site and asked them why they gave permission and so on.?
please read through my other post on copyrights and why many are angered by whats going on.
look for link Christara and please read all the links.thankyou for your time.
have a nice day,.chat ya soon.
http://www.desktopnexus.com/forum/site-talk/new-feature-easier-dmca-reporting...

I just want to say this: some DA members themselves enable the option to download their artwork. However, some members do not allow their art to be downloaded. If you do not want to share you art then just don't let others download it.

Second, even if you would like to share your art, but do not want it to be spread all over the internet, then please place a watermark. This, however, should not be a problem anymore since if a DA member does not want his art to be spread or downloaded, then upon magnifying his image DA automatically puts a watermark itself.

Please do notice the following. If you let others download your art but then complain that someone has "stolen" it, then you definitely are not doing a wise thing. By letting others see and download your work you accept all the consequences that may arise from you giving such a permission.

Another thing. No one steals your art. If anyone who has uploaded your art to DN or any other site claims to be the owner of this art, then it is called "stealing". However DN is mostly considered, and many car confirm this, as a site where people find different wallpapers from different sites, and upload them here so that other can easily find them. DN is surely the only site where you can find almost any wallpaper you like or need on the net. There are artists here as well, however, their population is not as hight as of DA's. Therefore, when an artist finds his art on DN, he should realize that no one claims to be the owner of this work, but only sharing the beautiful art of that artist. I hope you can see this definite distinction between DN and DA.

As a final word, i should say that when i create my own work and put it to DN (and as a beginner my work is not a distinguished one), i am proud that people download it, and will be even more proud to see it on other sites, or see it become a basis for another work. I don't need anyone to ask me whether they can take and upload or modify it. Just don't claim it is yours. Art is for people, and if you use your artist skills and make a masterpiece and then not share it, then what is the purpose of making an art? Can you image Leonardo not to let people view Mona Lisa, or view it from no closer than 10 meters away from it? Sure, you can do it for your own pleasure. This is absolutely OK. Some people write poems, for instance, but keep them away from others. But, if you do it for your own pleasure, why put it on a web and let people download it knowing that if it is a beautiful work it will somehow find its place on other sites?

I hope that artists who don't want their work to be spread all over the internet will take their own measures as well because DN is doing what lies on its side.

MrUnknown

I see what you are saying. My point of view is that there are people on deviantart who post their images as wallpapers and enable them for download for people to use on their own desktops. That doesn't mean that they want to see other people post them to different sites and take credit for the work. About half of my deviantart gallery is wallpaper, download enabled. When I found out about this site my answer was to join up and upload the wallpapers from my gallery. I'm happy to share these wallpapers and get pleasure from knowing if anyone enjoys them, but I know I'm sure going to be p*ssed if I found out someone else was taking credit for what I do. My wallpapers are still amateurish but it's taken 2 years of learning fractal programs to get to where I am.

Saying all of that, half of my deviantart gallery was never intended for wallpaper and has download disabled. I hope the good people on dn respect that and don't upload them here.

I've not read any abusive comments so far from deviantart members, because they all seem to get deleted pretty quickly, but I can understand why they may be angry. I have seen dn members who have not been so polite and reasonable as the people who have replied on this thread, who have been quite rude about deviantart members. I hope all this can be resolved soon.

I create my art for people to use as wallpaper. I do not put a watermark on it and I allow downloads for just that purpose.. I do not give permission for anyone to post my work on any other site, unless I am asked. There are some I have given written permission, with the condition there is a link back to my dA page.. I prefer to have my work downloaded from my dA pages rather than another site.. In many cases I will give permission, if asked nicely. However, I do tend to get a bit upset when someone takes it with out my permission.. That is the same as if you walked into my house and took one of my paintings off my wall. dA is an art site.. Not a Public Domain site.. All images there are copyrighted to their creators, including those called resources. All resource artists have rules that are expected to be followed. There are many Public Domain sites where you can find lovely walpaper to share.. dA is not one of them..

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firstly thats the whole point of art to be enjoyed by others,and by all.
the point being is many have got vexed by seeing there art in places they havn,t uploaded too.
which is an infringement of there rights has the creator of that said piece of art?
(art is used in general terms meaning something created by someone.EG picture,poem,sculpture,car design a building or just about anything)
they made it and put it there to be enjoyed and the downlaod button is for people to enjoy in the entirity of what the picture was intended for.maybe for it be used for a wallpaper or what ever the download arise,s too.
now to download that image and use it in any other way than what it was intended for and then by uploading and once thats been uploaded by anyone thats where the infringemnet can and usaully accurs?
1 if you have the right if given by the site or author of the production to download or the site is of public domain and has granted permission then so be it.
2 it doe,s not give you the automatic right to uplaod without seeking permission to upload.this where the creator of the said art is being abused.
and has for any art out there if placed in public areas it doe,s not mean you can take it. for example i,ll nip over france take down the mona lisa and take it home,.its there to be enjoyed and still remains the property of Government of France,but its not a free for all to go get it.?
i can look at the mona lisa for example in the museum or anywhere else for that matter but take it away and am stealing.(same has downloading)
and i can look at it thru many mediums.link shown.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Lisa
http://www.louvre.fr/llv/activite/detail_parcours.jsp?CONTENT%3C%3Ecnt_id=101...

so please before downloading anything from any website be careful it doe,s not always give you the right to upload it anywhere else.regardless of where you download if the said creator of that art doe,s not want you to do that.
like i say the internet is not a free for all basis.thats why so many have got vexed by whats been going on and this is probably the first place they have seen there creations and jumped at DN but in all honestly the works could of come from anywhere and been uploaded anywhere and its up to the said artist to approach DN and all concerned to, if they wish have there work removed.
hope this helps in the explaination i,ve given.

its like my work i,ve put it a place like DN because i know its a site which allows others to come along and use that wallpaper for the purpose of what i created it for,
and download has necessary to have the wallpaper to be used has such of what it was creatored for.(DN is a public domain site offering free wallpapers.)
but i did not give permission for it to be uploaded by anyone else.
when it is done and uploaded by others this can and will cause the disturbance of using my art in the wrong way simply because i did not give permission for people to do so.
(but if your reading this its ok you can uplaod it anywhere as long as a little recognition is in there,HEE HEE)
hope this helps in the explaination i,ve given.
have a great day chat ya soon.byeeeeeee.

Yup, i read it all :p

I understand what you all are saying. I know that it can be hurtful seeing your work uploaded by someone else to another site. But, when you look at it from a different perspective, by allowing users to download your work you cannot really be sure that even though you asked not to upload it anywhere else, your work will not somehow appear on another site. It is like leaving your keys in the car and hope that no one will steal it.

Another thing is that some of your work may have been taken not directly from DA, but a different site. But as a result it happens that DN is to blame here. It is kinda sad to see it happen that way.

I just want to emphasize that i do respect your work, i know you spend lots of time creating your art, even when i was creating my Rammstein wallpapers (you can see them in my profile) i had to spend around 30 minutes for each of them and i am yet to become a beginner :p I, if any of you told me "This is my work, freely download it but do not distribute it without my permission", would never upload your work anywhere. But unfortunately this is far from reality when it comes to internet. You may say one not to upload your art, but after sometime he forgets about it and uploads to a site, and your work begins to circle among hundreds of wallpaper sites. What i am trying to say is that even though someone agrees not to distribute your work he may forget about the promise he made and put your work to a site. He is not greedy or ignorant, he is just a human being. There are millions of people using internet simultaneously every second. Someone will find your art on that other site, and will himself upload it to another one, or give it to a friend saying "look, what an amazing work that is", and then it is up to his friend about what he will do with this nice art. It really is hard to watch over it when it comes to internet. I hope you understand what i am trying to say.

I am not asking anything here, but hope to see that you as artists approach this issue with more understanding. Things happen, and unfortunately it is almost impossible to find the to blame. However, our administration will be more than glad to remove your art if it has been uploaded without your permission. Just hope you will take things with ease, that is all.

Everyone out there does respect your work, guys! It is just that sometimes people do not know how to correctly express it. Cheep up!

MrUnknown

This is straying off-topic some and forgive me for so doing but I wanted to make sure that this is said. There is no question at all that there is a lot of friction going right now between some DA members and DN members but ......

I just wanted to say a very big THANK YOU to those from DA that have always remained respectful and kind. Shout out to Marsille for your kindness and I give a really big! shout out to VickyM62, whom I met here first, and then DA, but whom has been a DA member for quite some time.

I look forward to meeting plenty more people from DA that are just simply nice people who are not trying to wage some kind of all out war.

Personally if I now find an image, I will of course try to ask for permission first. But if there is not even a change to find the owner. I will simply upload and wait until the owner complains.

Why? Because I'm afraid it is almost impossible to know what actually the owner wants. Some would say yes, some would say no, to another upload. And since the owners have failed to leave their name. I'm afraid the owner will have to do all the work him/herself and come to me.

If that's the case, of course, I won't have a problem to remove my uploads. But until that, I will lay back and the let the people of Desktop Nexus enjoy his/her art. As it was meant to be enjoyed. But again, of course not in my name. But hell, if they don't even leave their name, as if a JPEG file couldn't store it. That, then is really their problem. I think I should mark those images in the description with: Unknown Artist. Just to avoid the confusion that I made it.


You are sweet when you are angry. So, they then insult for no reason and spam and that should make their names even bigger, huh?

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Bhahahahahahahah.....

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No, that would not make their names either bigger or even keep their greatness. And actually I'm quite sure here, that unlike some other kids on DA, THEY KNOW HOW TO REPORT! And I'm sure Komodo always listen in the past and he will keep listening in the future. Because he simply declared to protect copyright law.

So even if they sue Desktop Nexus. They will just fail.

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Does that conclude?

Before DesktopNexus members get too carried away thanking DeviantArt members for their "politeness", they should go to DeviantArt and check out all the posting saying that their goal is to have DesktopNexus shutdown! I think you're one who's made that comment aren't you, Marsille?

I'd just like to let you guys know for reference that if an image has the download option turned on at deviantart then when you save the image it has the artists name in, so if you are trying to get in touch with an artist to get permission and can't remember their name, you may be able to find out from the file name.